Saturday, June 23, 2007

Huh? Aren't the Lies Just Becoming Idiotic Now?

posted by Bill Arnett @ 12:59 PM Permalink

From the "W-h-h-a-a-a-t?" File, two conflicting reports, only eleven days apart:

First, from Raw Story:
With the four-month-old increase in American troops showing only modest success in curbing insurgent attacks, American commanders are turning to another strategy that they acknowledge is fraught with risk: arming Sunni Arab groups that have promised to fight militants linked with Al Qaeda who have been their allies in the past.

American commanders say they have successfully tested the strategy in Anbar Province west of Baghdad and have held talks with Sunni groups in at least four areas of central and north-central Iraq where the insurgency has been strong.
The statement that, "American commanders say they have successfully tested the strategy in Anbar Province," sounds pretty dispositive on the matter of arming insurgents: We did and have been doing it since before the reports of it showed up in the press around June 11, 2007.

Now, also from Raw Story/AFP just 11 days later:
The number two US military commander in Iraq on Friday denied that US forces were arming insurgents willing to fight forces of the Al-Qaeda network, but said the military was "reaching out."

"I want to make one thing very clear: we are not arming these groups," Lieutenant General Raymond Odierno told reporters via teleconference from Baghdad.

However, Odierno did admit providing 10 assault rifles to a security detail for one mayor he said was being "threatened."

"The best I can tell, we armed 10 security detachment personnel for a mayor in one town because he was being threatened. And so we did give him 10 AK-47s."
"Beyond that, we have not given weapons to any insurgent groups. They have plenty of weapons," Odierno said. "I want those weapons to be used against Al-Qaeda and not against coalition forces or Iraqi security forces."
I guess the arming of insurgents didn't fare well with focus groups the GOP consults as if they were true oracles.

It's obvious that both of these articles cannot be correct: we either are or are not arming insurgents.

If I were to speculate (and I will!), I would say there has already been severe blow-back from arming insurgents and that the Army must have captured or killed possible insurgents bearing American weaponry recently issued to insurgent groups that were supposed to aid us, and that those arms have been used against American forces.

But then again, all these generals will follow orders to lie to Americans and conceal what would be yet another debacle happening on the watch of gw bush/cheney/condi/feith/addington, the Neocons, the GOP, the Conservatives and all the other sycophantic followers of bush.

But aren't the lies becoming so transparent now that it has reached the stage of idiocy?

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At 3:09 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr. Arnett,
You should do some deeper research before you make wild speculations. As Odierno pointed out, there are more weapons in Iraq than anyone knows what to do with - arming the tribes would be like arming Texans. Second, if you were to take the time to ask the Marines in Anbar, they could have told you "the tribes" are the PSF units, who are paid by the MOI, get an intro police course, are going through the police academy in Habbaniyah and are doing "neighborhood watch" patrols with or without training. So what's your preference, an untrained mob worrying only about themselves, or getting some training and working with the military and police training teams that are being assigned to them?

At 11:27 AM, Anonymous Bill Arnett said...

No, I worried that once again our leaders are making a dreadful mistake arming those who may well turn against us. You know, like many of those "police" who were armed either laid down their guns and walked away from a conflict or turned their weapons on our troops. As to "arming Texas," which would you rather have, a forty year old AK-47 or a brand new shiny M4?

I do not make wild "speculations," but instead write about what I see, and here and there is clearly yet another lie being told by this maladministration. Both things cannot be true simultaneously:

We are arming insurgents as was bragged about in the June 11 newspapers (as quoted, I didn't make this crap up) or we are NOT arming insurgents as Odierno now vehemently denies in the June 22 newspapers, which is also quoted.

Also, I really don't call eight days of training sufficient to call that person a "policeman."

But the clearly stated argument is: Was the press lied to on June 11, or were they lied to on June 22? They are mutually exclusive.

And maybe, just maybe you might have learned that many of the forces, trained and equipped by America, are actively participating in death squads, killing anyone not of their religion and imprisoning hundreds of Iraqis, men, women, and children whom are either tortured or starved to death by the American-trained police and army units.

And don't think Iraqis do not know this.

Thanx for your differing opinion, but if you personally served in the military we just served in different, but equally stupid wars.


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